Friday, June 23rd, 2006...4:43 pm
Ebay Hurts Homeschooling
I haven’t run across any blogs that have written about this, although I am sure they’re out there. It’s being talked about on message boards and email lists but somehow I didn’t learn about it until yesterday, so I figure a few of us must still be in the dark about this.
Teacher’s editions are now prohibited on Ebay. A few examples of the things you can cannot list or sell:
- Teacher’s editions, instructor manuals and other books intended for teachers that might contain solutions and answers, regardless of antiquity, purpose, or publisher
- Ebay users are concerned that this far-reaching policy also restricts items such as lesson plans, learning guides, classroom resources, and other books that a teacher might use
When this policy went into place Ebay canceled auctions that were selling teacher’s editions – including listings that were selling these textbooks as part of packaged curriculum sets. Their policy goes on to state that if you list prohibited items you might have to forfeit your auction fees, limits could be placed on your account privileges, and your account could be suspended.
In my opinion, Ebay is no longer a homeschool-friendly place. Even though some materials can still be bought and sold on the auction site, this policy directly discriminates against homeschoolers because they have chosen to prohibit all teacher’s editions, even those made exclusively for private educators. This effectively limits sellers who offer items like all-in-one curriculums, homeschool teaching manuals, and student/teacher textbook sets. It also cuts off families who seek these products.
There are potentially millions of homeschoolers affected by this decision, as so many have come to rely on Ebay as their source for educational supplies. This policy has gone into effect at a time of year when many families are in the process of buying materials for the coming school year. It could severely limit the ability to sell the items they no longer use and to find teaching materials they need. This decision will undoubtedly have a financial impact, as many families budget carefully and plan to buy a significant portion of their items secondhand.
Many people have written to Ebay about their concerns, but at this time Ebay is standing firm on their decision. In reply to homeschoolers they say:
“Since eBay strives to be a level-playing field, all teacher’s edition textbooks will be covered under this policy. Unfortunately, home-schooling teacher’s editions are not exempt from this policy.”
“Concerns were voiced regarding the sale of teacher’s edition textbooks on the site; as such eBay has used its discretion to prohibit the sale of such items. While we do understand that this policy may be upsetting to those in educational communities, teacher’s edition textbooks will no longer be permitted on the site.”
Ebay has said the ban is to prevent students from buying materials that help them cheat. They feel teacher’s editions should only be used by qualified persons, and the primary reason for this policy is that they cannot tell if the person buying the materials is a student who wishes to cheat or a legitimate customer.
I certainly don’t want to help kids cheat, but after thinking about this policy for a while, I’ve realized it really doesn’t make much sense. It’s plagued with too many unanswered questions.
First, why all teacher’s editions? Ebay is referring to the cheating that is taking place at an alarming rate in public schools. But thousands of materials are marketed specifically to homeschoolers and are not used in any public classrooms. Public school students cannot use these books to look up the answer sheets to their tests and exams, so why ban them? How does this level the playing field? I must ask: Who is disadvantaged by the selling of homeschool teacher’s books? This decision doesn’t seem to “equalize” anything. In fact, it’s quite the opposite – it’s rather blatantly unfair to homeschoolers.
Secondly, how are students getting their hands on these teacher’s editions in the first place? To buy something from Ebay you must have a checking account, a credit card, or a paypal account. You also must have a billing and mailing address. This leads me to ask: How is a seventh grade student purchasing these items without getting caught by their parents? Does no one notice when a bulky package arrives in the mail? Doesn’t anyone check their Visa bill from time to time?
Third, many parents have asked: If eBay can regulate the sale of adult materials (and a list of other items) then why can’t they can find a way to regulate the sale of teacher’s editions? Items that are restricted to particular age groups are sold without problems on Ebay. So why couldn’t Ebay just restrict teacher’s editions to adult purchasers? Seems to me this would effectively eliminate the problem they’re concerned about. Was this option even given consideration before the ban was put into place? Is it really necessary to take a drastic action like banning, when it negatively affects an entire community?
Fourth, who exactly complained about this practice of selling and buying teacher’s editions? Schools? Teacher’s unions? Text books publishers? Perhaps this issue has been covered in the news, but I am not aware of it being a huge problem. Is there a hidden agenda here? It is well known that Ebay is the #1 source homeschoolers use for educational supplies. But, as one homeschooler put it, “Somebody with more clout than a few million homeschoolers seems to have gotten their ear.” It is certainly food for thought.
So, what can you do? Well, you do have a few options.
Speak Your Mind
An online petition has been started that asks Ebay to revise this policy. I am not sure what good this will really do, I mean even though we make millions of purchases from their site each year we are still but a tiny percentage of their sales. They seem pretty convinced about their decision. Even so, signing this petition can’t hurt, and surprising things happen all the time.
Also, Ebay has directed folks who are unhappy with this decision to express their feelings on the matter by completing a suggestion form. They say, “Although you may not see the policy change immediately as a result of your email, the appropriate personnel will be made aware of your position on this issue.” As most of us know through life experience, letters which are well-written and to the point have a better chance of making a difference than rambling, angry comments.
Shop Elsewhere
Alternative auction sites catering to homeschoolers are getting underway. One such site is This Little Piggy Stays Home, and it was created in direct response to this Ebay policy. To entice us, the site is offering unlimited, free listings for the first 3 months as a registered user.
Homeschool Bid welcomes both homeschooling and non-homeschooling items. Things such as used/new curriculum, computer hardware and software, household items, clothing and more can be listed and sold here. Best of all, it’s free to post and buy items.
A pair of resourceful Ebayers started Homeschool Auctions, an online trading site for home educators, in response to the many suggestions from visitors of their Christian homeschooling site. There are no listing nor membership fees.
Share Information
If you have a favorite source, please share it in the comments section. Since we’re looking for replacement services similar to those offered Ebay, let’s concentrate on sites which allow parents to buy and sell both used and new homeschooling materials, including teacher’s editions. Alternative auction sites are especially welcome!









12 Comments
June 23rd, 2006 at 5:32 pm
I had asked Andrea if we could start a community here for users to sell curriculum, and she started a journal called “Buy and Sell” in response to that. It’s in the planning stages, but that will be another option.
June 23rd, 2006 at 5:38 pm
I noticed it on the blogroll, that’s a great idea! I can’t wait until it’s ready, I’ll definitely use it.
June 23rd, 2006 at 5:53 pm
in relation to some of your queries, it would not surprise me if there are parents out there who are helping their children to cheat. Or at least buying teachers editions to coach their children to do better in tests. Sometimes there is a lot at stake in those tests and credentialism has become the driving force (rather than learning). A real shame.
June 23rd, 2006 at 6:38 pm
Thanks for sharing your thoughts JoVE. I agree that test scores seem to be the pinnacle now days, rather than knowledge gained through life experience. I feel there is nothing wrong with parents who use whatever resources necessary to help their kids learn, however it is sad that children are simply learning to be better test takers.
If parents are indeed helping their kids cheat, how wide-spread is this problem and has it reached a crisis point where banning the selling of these books is necessary? Perhaps there is a better solution that doesn’t prohibit access to educational materials.
I agree that there are serious issues with testing in schools, but any remedies to these problems should not unfairly punish families who are not even part of the school system. Why does it make sense to restrict materials made for private educators because of a problem in public schools?
June 23rd, 2006 at 6:45 pm
I would guess that some of the muscle behind the ebay ruling comes from the publishing houses who give public and perhaps private schools the teacher editions only to find that the teachers steal them and hawk them on ebay. The teacher’s editions for homeschoolers are priced outrageously. They would hope that they can control the market and make tremendous profits from homeschoolers that would offset the give aways to the public schools.
I never used text books when I taught, nor did I belong to the union, but I remember the complaints about missing teacher’s editions were voiced loudly. Many were missing in action and I don’t think the students were responsible. Though, I do agree with JoVE who believes that parents would aid and abet in the cheating problem. The competition is tremendous. I taught literature, but I proctored an AP Calculus practice test and students were cheating on a no credit practice test and their parents supported their dishonesty.
Is it any wonder that I chose to homeschool?
By the way, most if not all teachers’ unions are affiliated with the TEAMSTERS! Now there is some muscle.
June 23rd, 2006 at 7:17 pm
You’re right, most teacher’s editions are simply outrageous! It can be several hundred dollars to buy one new. That’s why homeschoolers who use them try to find used and secondhand sources. But even these seem to go for hefty prices, which is one of the reason I’m doubting the claim that students are buying them.
Publishers are against the practice of selling teacher’s editions, mostly because they want to earn money from selling new products. But if stuff can’t be reused, then what? How much waste is that? It makes no sense to shelf or throw away a perfectly fine resource that others could be making good use out of. Publishers aren’t gaining anything. Most families aren’t going to fork out that much money for a book. If they can’t find it at a reasonable price they’ll just use something else.
By the way, it really sucks that people are stealing these, I wasn’t aware of that. I can see restricting the sale of these items since it could possibly be ill gotten. But this doesn’t apply to stuff published for home education, so why punish homeschoolers?
June 23rd, 2006 at 7:36 pm
I should make it clear that I am speaking about two different types of products: those that come from big name publishers which are marketed primarily to public schools, and those materials that come from other companies who market exclusively to the homeschooling community.
I don’t believe the latter products would be considered suitable for public schools as many of them have religious overtones and/or do not offer state-specific editions that cater perfectly to the SOLs in each state. This latter group of materials is clearly made for home educators. There is a distinct difference, and I cannot understand why Ebay could not find a better way to remedy it’s concerns.
June 24th, 2006 at 2:27 am
I say use a different site, let it be their loss, kwim??
June 24th, 2006 at 2:41 am
Yeah, I’m thinking along those lines right now, too. If you can’t beat ‘em, just find something better.
June 26th, 2006 at 2:23 am
I have found this new policy of Ebay’s extremely frustrating. I have an ebay store upon which I used to sell lots of homeschool materials. Ebay canceled several of my auctions and when I complained they explained that, yes, even bundled curricului designed exclusively for homsechoolers which contain any kind of parent manual are no longer allowed. I have to open new curriculi, remove the parent”teacher’s” manual and then sell it as used since it’s no longer new! I will try the petition and the suggestion form. this is a crimp in my sales and there inability to recognzie howmuch this hurts homeschoolers is frustrating. Truth is, that when I opened my store they had enough homsechool sales to make it worth their while to include tips for homseschool sales, and now because “ebay has received concerns about the sale of teacher’s manuals which are intended for teachers.” they are making homsechool sales much less a part of the community. After establishing a business and a clientelle on Ebay it’s not so easy to just move to another site.
June 26th, 2006 at 6:42 pm
Between this and Ebays’insistance on PayPal as the be-all, end-all way to pay for items, I’m ready for a change! Ebay must not realize just how many home educators use their site for purchasing items. Seems like this one will hurt their pocketbook.
September 29th, 2006 at 8:12 am
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